REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA: Agenda available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Services counter by 4:30 p.m. on Thursday, September 3, 2009.

ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The Planning Commission will discuss the order of the agenda, may amend the order, note abstentions and request Consent Calendar items be removed from the consent calendar for discussion.

No changes, were reported.

ROLL CALL:

PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.

Vice Chair Cohen opened Public Comments; there being none

PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.

-Russell Tower, residence at east, showed pictures

Caffery arrived at 1:35 p.m

His concern is that he doesn't want anymore cell sites put up.

Roll call (6 Present, 1 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:07:33)

PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.

He showed what it looks like from his back view. There being no

1. SPECIAL PRESENTATION:

1A. Resolution of Appreciation - A resolution recognizing Larry Hochanadel for his service to the City of Palm Springs, as a member of the Planning Commission.

Dianne Marantz read the commendation of appreciation for Larry Hochanadel.

Motion to approve To adopt the Resolution of Appreciation recognizing Larry Hochanadel for his years of service to the City of Palm Springs. Moved by Caffery, seconded by Scott.

Vote to approve To adopt the Resolution of Appreciation recognizing Larry Hochanadel for his years of service to the City of Palm Springs. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:15:00)

2. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:

2A. Election of Chair

Donenfeld nominated Leo Cohen

2B. Election of Vice-Chair

Bill Scott nominated Commissioner Caffery

3. CONSENT CALENDAR:

3A. Minutes of July 22, 2009.

Motion to approve To approve, minutes of July 22, 2009. Moved by Scott, seconded by Donenfeld.

Vote to approve To approve, minutes of July 22, 2009. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:20:53)

Hudson will abstain.

3B. Case 3.1389 MAJ - A request by Desert Water Agency for architectural approval for a 3,600 square foot warehouse/ storage building located at 1200 South Gene Autry Trail, Zone M-1, Section 20. (Project Planner: Glenn Mlaker, Assistant Planner)

4. OTHER BUSINESS:

4A. Appointment of two (2) Architectural Advisory Committee Members.

Motion to approve Direct staff regarding appointment to the Architectural Advisory Committee to fill the vacancies for two open seats. Moved by Conrad, seconded by Donenfeld.

Vote to approve Direct staff regarding appointment to the Architectural Advisory Committee to fill the vacancies for two open seats. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:22:47)

Scott recommended Patrick McGrew, Will Kleindist and alternate Escalanted

4B. Case SP 09-002 - A request by Best Signs, Inc. to implement a new sign program for the Rimrock Plaza shopping center located the southeast corner of East Palm Canyon Drive and Matthew Drive, Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

David Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 9, 2009.

Roll call (6 Present, 1 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:24:44)

4B. Case SP 09-002 - A request by Best Signs, Inc. to implement a new sign program for the Rimrock Plaza shopping center located the southeast corner of East Palm Canyon Drive and Matthew Drive, Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

Commissioner Donenfeld said that the staff is siting with this . . .

Staff answered about irrigation - a requirement about landscaping = to change to include within 5 feet . . .

Scott asked about the monument signs . . .

Tracy asked about the entire sign program will address the same problem as the water

Tracy asked about the verbiage to address the rehabilitation of the old sign. Hudson responded about the AAC's view on the sign. Tracy did not feel the two signs do not go well together. in favor of simplification

Mr. Caffery said that he was not in favor and felt it should be more in keeping with the existing or original signs.

Jim Cross, Best Signs, representing the owner, said that the owner will not have a problem with keeping the water away from the sign, aluminium, he said that the sign will appear much smaller than what the Commission is seeing now. He expressed difficulty with the time spent on designing a sign. He said that they re-designed the sign as requested by the AAC. He expressed his struggle with the design of the sign and everyone liking it. Mr. Cross requested approval of the sign program.

Jim Cross was speaking specifically to the monument sign and not the blade signs.

Jim Cross, said that they can minimize the - the structural element.

Doug Donenfeld said that he was in attendance at the AAC meeting, he said that he found Von's extraordinally responsive and good points. He felt that they should give the owner the benefit of the doubt. He felt a good balance was struck.

Caffery said he felt it just didn't have any elements of the original signs. Color or shades or pillars.

Hudson, a new pad building - that is used to be a simple sign and it isn't simple anymore.

subject to sending the main monument sign back to the AAC.

to add original elements to include in design of the shopping center. The main sign to look like the entry sign . . . Caffery, page 9 of orignal elements of the shopping center; the uniqueness of the shopping center. Conrad the main differences, she wants . . . great success working with staff.

Motion to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, and send the main monument sign back to the AAC. Moved by Scott, seconded by Caffery.

Vote to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, and send the main monument sign back to the AAC. (Declined) (Recorded at 01:03:26)

with direction to pick up more elements of the shopping center design.

Caffery reduce pillars so that they are not so heavy looking.

Donenfeld said about building a pad; what in much more keeping with what is now. He admonishes the committee to realize a deal with what is.

a subcommittee of Hudson and Caffery and staff to review the monument sign.

Motion to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval with the exception of the monument sign. to return with the monument sign for further review. Moved by Conrad, seconded by Caffery.

Vote to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval with the exception of the monument sign. to return with the monument sign for further review. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:10:16)

5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:

5A. Case 3.3333 MAJ / TTM 36185 / 7.1320 AMM - A request by Community Dynamics for architectural approval of a 51-unit moderate income for-sale townhouse complex and a condominium map on an approximate 3.6-acre parcel located at 3130 North Indian Canyon Drive, Zone R-2, Section 2. (Project Planner: Ken Lyon, Associate Planner)

a time frame.

Motion to approve To continue the hearing to a date to be determined. Moved by Scott, seconded by Caffery.

Vote to approve To continue the hearing to a date to be determined. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:12:52)

5B. Case 5.1226 CUP / 6.513 VAR - A request by Royal Street Communications for a Conditional Use Permit to install a new fifty-five foot tall commercial communication antenna and a Variance to exceed the maximum height permitted from fifteen feet to fifty-five feet located at 2101 Sahara Road, Zone P, Section 1. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

David Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 9, 2009. Mr. Newell reported that this site currently has three monopalms.

-Monica Arivizu, representing Nextel/Sprint, she stated that found this site as the best location for the cell tower; will be happy to install additional palm trees. --Bill Ferra, Palm Springs, said that he spoke on this site many years ago. He stated that this site could have a 2 story building. He stated that he doe not have a problem with this project. -David Packer, Packer Engineering, engineer for the church nearby, he said there is discussion about expanding the parking. they would like an improvemt in the landscaping. There being no further comments the Public Hearing was closed.

Questions from the Commission: Caffery said that they look bad after the winds mess up the frawns. addl height, maybe this could be brought back. He felt no more monopalms and preferred monopoles. She said they were fine with a slim monpoles.

Conrad asked about pulling all the CUPs for enforcement of maintenance. height and box sizes, more stringent for the maintenance. She suggested to staff to start looking at all these types of CUPs. a boiler plate condition stating no further towers on this property. by not allowing more poles on this location.

Commissioner Scott noted that the conditions include maintenance of the property.

with the additional of the landscaping and the palm trees. the monopalm will install additional carriers. co-locators are welcomed. to make the new structure to handle one additional co-locator. PLN #13 to require the proposed monopalm to be structurally able to allow additional co locators.

Hudson is opposed to monopalms and prefers mono poles. all future facilties to have the trim line slim poles. Caffery also agreed in monopoles. he tighten the landscape to include palm frawns. Tracy disagreed about the monopoles and monopalms.

Doug left at 3:19 p.m.

Motion to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. Moved by Scott, seconded by Donenfeld.

Vote to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:55:37)

5C. Case 5.1227 CUP / 6.517 VAR - A request by Royal Street Communications for a Conditional Use Permit to install a fifty-five foot tall commercial communication antenna and a Variance to exceed the maximum antenna height permitted from fifteen feet to fifty-five feet located at 4733 East Palm Canyon Drive, Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

David Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 9, 2009.

-Veronica Arizu, representing Royal Street Communications, provided details on the proposed monopalm and was available from the Commission.

Motion to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. Moved by Caffery, seconded by Conrad.

Vote to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. (Approved) (Recorded at 02:12:40)

desert colors. the height to remain at 45' and look at co-locations possibilities. a slim-line monopole, painted a desert color and the pole to be engineered to allow additional height and to match a light medium brown.

PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS: This portion of the meeting is set aside for brief general comments and/or other issues of concern from members of the Planning Commission.

Commissioner Caffery welcomed the new Planning Commissioners to the board.

PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT: This time is set aside for the Planning Director to update the Planning Commission on important items initiated by staff or members of the City Council.

Director Ewing reported that the City Council will not be meeting next week and they will medical cannabis. Director Ewing will be out of the office next week.

There being no further comments the Planning Commission adjourned at 3:44 p.m.

ADJOURNMENT: The Planning Commission will adjourn to Wednesday, September 23, 2009, at 1:30 p.m., City Hall, Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way.

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CALL TO ORDER:

The meeting was called to order 1:32 p.m.

Roll call (6 Present, 1 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:05:15)

ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The Planning Commission will discuss the order of the agenda, may amend the order, note abstentions and request Consent Calendar items be removed from the consent calendar for discussion.

No changes, were reported.

ROLL CALL:

PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.

Vice Chair Cohen opened Public Comments; there being none

PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.

-Russell Tower, residence at east, showed pictures

Caffery arrived at 1:35 p.m

His concern is that he doesn't want anymore cell sites put up.

Roll call (6 Present, 1 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:07:33)

PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.

He showed what it looks like from his back view. There being no

1. SPECIAL PRESENTATION:

1A. Resolution of Appreciation - A resolution recognizing Larry Hochanadel for his service to the City of Palm Springs, as a member of the Planning Commission.

Dianne Marantz read the commendation of appreciation for Larry Hochanadel.

Motion to approve To adopt the Resolution of Appreciation recognizing Larry Hochanadel for his years of service to the City of Palm Springs. Moved by Caffery, seconded by Scott.

Vote to approve To adopt the Resolution of Appreciation recognizing Larry Hochanadel for his years of service to the City of Palm Springs. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:15:00)

2. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:

2A. Election of Chair

Donenfeld nominated Leo Cohen

2B. Election of Vice-Chair

Bill Scott nominated Commissioner Caffery

3. CONSENT CALENDAR:

3A. Minutes of July 22, 2009.

Motion to approve To approve, minutes of July 22, 2009. Moved by Scott, seconded by Donenfeld.

Vote to approve To approve, minutes of July 22, 2009. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:20:53)

Hudson will abstain.

4. OTHER BUSINESS:

4A. Appointment of two (2) Architectural Advisory Committee Members.

Motion to approve Direct staff regarding appointment to the Architectural Advisory Committee to fill the vacancies for two open seats. Moved by Conrad, seconded by Donenfeld.

Vote to approve Direct staff regarding appointment to the Architectural Advisory Committee to fill the vacancies for two open seats. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:22:47)

Scott recommended Patrick McGrew, Will Kleindist and alternate Escalanted

4B. Case SP 09-002 - A request by Best Signs, Inc. to implement a new sign program for the Rimrock Plaza shopping center located the southeast corner of East Palm Canyon Drive and Matthew Drive, Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

David Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 9, 2009.

Roll call (6 Present, 1 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:24:44)

4B. Case SP 09-002 - A request by Best Signs, Inc. to implement a new sign program for the Rimrock Plaza shopping center located the southeast corner of East Palm Canyon Drive and Matthew Drive, Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

Commissioner Donenfeld said that the staff is siting with this . . .

Staff answered about irrigation - a requirement about landscaping = to change to include within 5 feet . . .

Scott asked about the monument signs . . .

Tracy asked about the entire sign program will address the same problem as the water

Mr. Caffery said that he was not in favor and felt it should be more in keeping with the existing or original signs.

Jim Cross was speaking specifically to the monument sign and not the blade signs.

Jim Cross, said that they can minimize the - the structural element.

Caffery said he felt it just didn't have any elements of the original signs. Color or shades or pillars.

Hudson, a new pad building - that is used to be a simple sign and it isn't simple anymore.

subject to sending the main monument sign back to the AAC.

Motion to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, and send the main monument sign back to the AAC. Moved by Scott, seconded by Caffery.

Vote to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, and send the main monument sign back to the AAC. (Declined) (Recorded at 01:03:26)

with direction to pick up more elements of the shopping center design.

Caffery reduce pillars so that they are not so heavy looking.

Donenfeld said about building a pad; what in much more keeping with what is now. He admonishes the committee to realize a deal with what is.

a subcommittee of Hudson and Caffery and staff to review the monument sign.

Motion to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval with the exception of the monument sign. to return with the monument sign for further review. Moved by Conrad, seconded by Caffery.

Vote to approve To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval with the exception of the monument sign. to return with the monument sign for further review. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:10:16)

5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:

5A. Case 3.3333 MAJ / TTM 36185 / 7.1320 AMM - A request by Community Dynamics for architectural approval of a 51-unit moderate income for-sale townhouse complex and a condominium map on an approximate 3.6-acre parcel located at 3130 North Indian Canyon Drive, Zone R-2, Section 2. (Project Planner: Ken Lyon, Associate Planner)

a time frame.

Motion to approve To continue the hearing to a date to be determined. Moved by Scott, seconded by Caffery.

Vote to approve To continue the hearing to a date to be determined. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:12:52)

5B. Case 5.1226 CUP / 6.513 VAR - A request by Royal Street Communications for a Conditional Use Permit to install a new fifty-five foot tall commercial communication antenna and a Variance to exceed the maximum height permitted from fifteen feet to fifty-five feet located at 2101 Sahara Road, Zone P, Section 1. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

David Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 9, 2009. Mr. Newell reported that this site currently has three monopalms.

Commissioner Scott noted that the conditions include maintenance of the property.

Doug left at 3:19 p.m.

Motion to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. Moved by Scott, seconded by Donenfeld.

Vote to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:55:37)

5C. Case 5.1227 CUP / 6.517 VAR - A request by Royal Street Communications for a Conditional Use Permit to install a fifty-five foot tall commercial communication antenna and a Variance to exceed the maximum antenna height permitted from fifteen feet to fifty-five feet located at 4733 East Palm Canyon Drive, Zone W-C-D-N, Section 30. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)

David Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 9, 2009.

-Veronica Arizu, representing Royal Street Communications, provided details on the proposed monopalm and was available from the Commission.

Motion to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. Moved by Caffery, seconded by Conrad.

Vote to approve To recommend approval to the City Council, subject to Conditions of Approval. (Approved) (Recorded at 02:12:40)

PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS: This portion of the meeting is set aside for brief general comments and/or other issues of concern from members of the Planning Commission.

Commissioner Caffery welcomed the new Planning Commissioners to the board.

PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT: This time is set aside for the Planning Director to update the Planning Commission on important items initiated by staff or members of the City Council.

Director Ewing reported that the City Council will not be meeting next week and they will medical cannabis. Director Ewing will be out of the office next week.

There being no further comments the Planning Commission adjourned at 3:44 p.m.

ADJOURNMENT: The Planning Commission will adjourn to Wednesday, September 23, 2009, at 1:30 p.m., City Hall, Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way.

Roll call (7 Present, 0 Absent, 0 Excused)

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