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CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Donenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Roll Call: 6 members present, 1 members absent, 0 members excused.
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA:
The agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Services counter by 4:00 p.m. on Thursday, September 6, 2012.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
munger will recuse herself on item 2A and 2C.
was approved.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.
Chair Donenfeld oopened public comments: -Paul Onefur, working with the HOA, spoke in reference to item 2C; he said one of the items that we requested is that existing improvements are satisfactory. -Michael Osborne, spoke in reference to item 2C, he said about there . . . . -Harry Cortwright, have been working with Vista Partners for two years. He talked about the fencing; the part that was not developed. accept the two minor exceptions. will wait til property values go up - re Wells Fargo, item 2b, spoke about currently being on a new brand for improving the overrall esthetics of the property. She explained that wayfinding if very important to t -Rick Puckett, item 2A, spoke about the 2 gates; he requested to leave the gate where it stands. He would like to get a variance. -Joe Dennith, owner across from him, management committee, he talked about the gate, two are for handicapped spaces and said he has 8 cars parking outside of the street. he said the parking spaces are being used for storage and materials. no yard; parking and landscaping. -Lucia Thompson, requested an amendment closed
1. CONSENT CALENDAR:
1A. Minutes of July 11 and July 25, 2012.
1B. Case 10.473 DET - A request for a Finding of Conformity to the Palm Springs General Plan for the sale of City-owned property at 4810 Camino Parocela (former City Animal Shelter), Zone M-1, Section 19. (Craig A. Ewing, AICP, Director of Planning Services)
Motion to Approve To approve Items 1A and 1B, as presented. Moved by Leslie Munger, seconded by Kathy Weremiuk.
Vote to Approve To approve Items 1A and 1B, as presented. (Approved)
2. OTHER BUSINESS:
2A. Case 3.0452 MAA - An appeal by Rick Puckett of Desert Scapes Welding, Inc. of the Planning Director’s decision to deny the relocation of driveway gates for 1233 and 1235 South Gene Autry Trail, Zone M-1, Section 19. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)
Commissioner Munger has left the room at 1:50 due a conflict of interest.
David Newell, Associate Planner, provided an overview of the staff report dated September 12, 2012.
The Commission discussed the storage; the issue of storage
Commissioner Munger re-entered at 1:59 p.m.
Motion to To deny the appeal without prejudice. Moved by Kathy Weremiuk, seconded by J.R. Roberts.
Vote to To deny the appeal without prejudice. (Approved)
Commissioner Munger returned to the dias at 1:59 p.m.
2B. Case SP 12-002 Sign Program Amendment - An application by Wells Fargo Bank to amend a previously approved sign program for the Sunrise Square Shopping Center located at 1735 North Sunrise Way, Zone CDN. (Project Planner: Glenn Mlaker, AICP, Assistant Planner)
Glenn Mlaker, Assistant Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 12, 2012.
Commissioner Calerdine asked about the 2 lines, the red background, the beige and brown stucco background was discussed.
Vice Chair Hudson recommended: keeping the sign left justified The applicant talked about the size of the sign. Hudson
Commissioner Roberts commented on two many signs and would like the shape in the left hand corner. square shape on the left.
Weremiuck asked about
Planner Mlaker said that the brown background was never considered; AAC was comfortable with the red background.
the sign above the atm machine, as presented. all 3 monuments signs approved wiht the yellow lettering and brown background. as presented
Motion to To approve the sign program amendment subject to Conditions of Approval. Moved by J.R. Roberts, seconded by Lyn Calerdine.
Vote to To approve the sign program amendment subject to Conditions of Approval. (Approved)
2C. Case 5.1029 PD 315 - A request by Arroyo Vista Partners, LLC, for minor amendments to the previously approved Palermo Mixed Use Development located at the northeast corner of Indian Canyon Drive and San Rafael Drive, Zone PDD 315, Section 35. (Project Planner: Edward Robertson, Principal Planner)
Commissioner Munger left the dias at 2:19.
Edward Robertson, Principal Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 12, 2012. clarified what is being replaced with wrought iron. Currently there is temporary fencing.
The developer came to clarify the proposal at the site map exhibits. calerdie is the wrought iron a part of the . .. .
estimate4d timelines on commercial development. applicant, it could be a couple of years
donenfeld talked about security of a gated community;
roberts, temporary street conditions, not nice empty lots and looks very bad. not a bad thing what they are proposing.
calerdine asks what the risk is to the city to add the
Discussion occurred regarding the exits, streets,
Roberts asked what is currently ; is a paved street
Chair Donenfeld said this is a
commissioner roberts suggested that all the fencing proposed be wall; the appliant agreed; especially with the wrought iron.
weremuik, said she is very uncomforatble with out the fiihsed she prefered the ocrner is most important to the city. how long the case for it to be wrought iron and masonry wall. but not uncofortble with leaving the streets unfinished.
Weremiuck prefered to have the streets finished.
calerdine very hesitant; support staff
hudson, the 6 homes will be rented not sold.
the applicant talked about the bonds are pending the street. When the city calls the bond the city becomes the developer.
it takes a minin
to approve and come with a landscaping and fencing plan, allow the temporary street to stand until the rest is developed. incorporate the clubhouse and hoa; motion dropped.
discussion entailed about the street improvements, calerdine is a temporary access road.
finish the roadway in front of the houses before they are occupied; to approve the fencing conceptually; to continue and direct the applicant to prepare a fencing and landscaping plan and direct enginering
The conceptual plans for the streets.
Motion to approve That the Planning Commission approve the proposed phasing plans and the conversion of the six model units subject to the conditions of approval. Moved by Lyn Calerdine, seconded by Kathy Weremiuk.
3. PUBLIC HEARING:
3A. Case 5.1279 CUP - A request by Fury Investments (Zelda's Nightclub) for a Conditional Use Permit to operate a nightclub use within the Sun Center located at 611 South Palm Canyon Drive, Zone PD 77, Section 22. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)
munger re-entered at 2:54 p.m.
David A. Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 12, 2012.
Commissioner Weremiuck expressed concern with a CUP's indefinite time length. with no end date; with one that serves alcohol.
Director Ewing reported that conditions can be imposed to add a review period.
Roberts, said the Commission had requested for review of cups, that service alcohol.
calerdine, asked about a shared parking, ewing, said that it is a single center.
weremiuck, asked the police to address.
-Melissa, she said only five noise complaints have been received; and no concerns with loitering the parking lot. a total of 248 calls; self initiate bar checks and property checks; 25 police reports that were recieved: 7 battery reports , 5 intoxication, 1 vandalism, 1 obstruction with police officer, 1 display of weapons, 1 theft, related to Zelda's. 5 minute break 2 3:06 p.m. meeting began again . . . 3:13 p.m.
with the revised coa's and pln 2 delete, an annual review, the pd come back if there are problems subsequent at the discretion of the planning director. removal of the speaker in the patio 6pm to 2 am 7 days a week modify. pd to produce a history of call of service; report back to the commission.
munger asked for a review of the cup; staff said that one of the problems is that it's hard to define a change in ownershp. establish a period of regular review including a security plan; can be revocation
removal of the exterior speaker. noise limits are the key here.
calerdine, hours of operation was discussed.
roberts asked what was approved for toucan's, no terms, on-going cup for location.
Chair Donenfeld opened the public hearing: -Mike McCormick, owner of Zelda's, said that he's worked with police officer to address the security issues. pd has aked to put in a complete video survillence cameras, a system to allow the noise level to go a certain level, uniformed patrol person on bicycle, increase security to 14 and they've done. # length of cup as long as he owns the business. #, only open thurs - sat., he should be allowed to be opened 7 ngihts for special events. esp. sundays. and be allowed to operate differnet hours. parking lot is kept clean, and janitorial service too. spoke about his love for the city. There being no further appearances public hearing was closed.
weremiuck asked about noise levels; dba threshold for noise leves. noise levels set for a zones in the city.
Munger, asked about the patio open area.
Motion to To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, as amended:
-Two (2) year review. Moved by Lyn Calerdine, seconded by Leslie Munger.
Vote to To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, as amended:
-Two (2) year review. (Approved)
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS: This portion of the meeting is set aside for brief general comments and/or other issues of concern from members of the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Roberts signs
Munger asked about the possibility of a study session for the flag pole
weremiuck, the tribal commission the tribe has asked for a delay. Sitting with the City Attorney, 6 or fewer beds, study session
The parcel map will come before the Commission at your next meeting. Roberts, asked for a study session prior to a public hearing.
Craig talked about the parcel map, scale and layout design of the overall plan. He talked about the buildings,
The Commission discussed the timeframe to hold a study session.
PLANNING DIRECTOR?S REPORT: This time is set aside for the Planning Director to update the Planning Commission on important items initiated by staff or members of the City Council.
Direction Ewing referenced Ms. Thompson's comment regarding the flag pole; only allowed in front yards. he can do some research.
during the month of october you will review the cup for the food distrubtion center; the city council approved the first hearing of the zta to refer applicatios to the planning commission.
ADJOURNMENT: The Planning Commission will adjourn to 1:30 p.m., Wednesday, September 26, 2012, City Hall, Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way.
the meeting adjourned at 3:52 p.m.
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Donenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Roll Call: 6 members present, 1 members absent, 0 members excused.
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA:
The agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Services counter by 4:00 p.m. on Thursday, September 6, 2012.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
munger will recuse herself on item 2A and 2C.
was approved.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: This time has been set aside for members of the public to address the Planning Commission on Consent Calendar and other agenda items; and items of general interest within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Commission. Please note that the Planning Commission is prohibited from taking action on items not listed on the posted agenda. Three (3) minutes is allowed for each speaker. Testimony for Public Hearings maybe offered at this time or at the time of the hearing.
Chair Donenfeld oopened public comments: -Paul Onefur, working with the HOA, spoke in reference to item 2C; he said one of the items that we requested is that existing improvements are satisfactory. -Michael Osborne, spoke in reference to item 2C, he said about there . . . . -Harry Cortwright, have been working with Vista Partners for two years. He talked about the fencing; the part that was not developed. accept the two minor exceptions. will wait til property values go up - re Wells Fargo, item 2b, spoke about currently being on a new brand for improving the overrall esthetics of the property. She explained that wayfinding if very important to t -Rick Puckett, item 2A, spoke about the 2 gates; he requested to leave the gate where it stands. He would like to get a variance. -Joe Dennith, owner across from him, management committee, he talked about the gate, two are for handicapped spaces and said he has 8 cars parking outside of the street. he said the parking spaces are being used for storage and materials. no yard; parking and landscaping. -Lucia Thompson, requested an amendment closed
1. CONSENT CALENDAR:
1A. Minutes of July 11 and July 25, 2012.
1B. Case 10.473 DET - A request for a Finding of Conformity to the Palm Springs General Plan for the sale of City-owned property at 4810 Camino Parocela (former City Animal Shelter), Zone M-1, Section 19. (Craig A. Ewing, AICP, Director of Planning Services)
Motion to Approve To approve Items 1A and 1B, as presented. Moved by Leslie Munger, seconded by Kathy Weremiuk.
Vote to Approve To approve Items 1A and 1B, as presented. (Approved)
2. OTHER BUSINESS:
2A. Case 3.0452 MAA - An appeal by Rick Puckett of Desert Scapes Welding, Inc. of the Planning Director’s decision to deny the relocation of driveway gates for 1233 and 1235 South Gene Autry Trail, Zone M-1, Section 19. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)
Commissioner Munger has left the room at 1:50 due a conflict of interest.
David Newell, Associate Planner, provided an overview of the staff report dated September 12, 2012.
The Commission discussed the storage; the issue of storage
Commissioner Munger re-entered at 1:59 p.m.
Motion to To deny the appeal without prejudice. Moved by Kathy Weremiuk, seconded by J.R. Roberts.
Vote to To deny the appeal without prejudice. (Approved)
Commissioner Munger returned to the dias at 1:59 p.m.
2B. Case SP 12-002 Sign Program Amendment - An application by Wells Fargo Bank to amend a previously approved sign program for the Sunrise Square Shopping Center located at 1735 North Sunrise Way, Zone CDN. (Project Planner: Glenn Mlaker, AICP, Assistant Planner)
Glenn Mlaker, Assistant Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 12, 2012.
Commissioner Calerdine asked about the 2 lines, the red background, the beige and brown stucco background was discussed.
Vice Chair Hudson recommended: keeping the sign left justified The applicant talked about the size of the sign. Hudson
Commissioner Roberts commented on two many signs and would like the shape in the left hand corner. square shape on the left.
Weremiuck asked about
Planner Mlaker said that the brown background was never considered; AAC was comfortable with the red background.
the sign above the atm machine, as presented. all 3 monuments signs approved wiht the yellow lettering and brown background. as presented
Motion to To approve the sign program amendment subject to Conditions of Approval. Moved by J.R. Roberts, seconded by Lyn Calerdine.
Vote to To approve the sign program amendment subject to Conditions of Approval. (Approved)
2C. Case 5.1029 PD 315 - A request by Arroyo Vista Partners, LLC, for minor amendments to the previously approved Palermo Mixed Use Development located at the northeast corner of Indian Canyon Drive and San Rafael Drive, Zone PDD 315, Section 35. (Project Planner: Edward Robertson, Principal Planner)
Commissioner Munger left the dias at 2:19.
Edward Robertson, Principal Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 12, 2012. clarified what is being replaced with wrought iron. Currently there is temporary fencing.
The developer came to clarify the proposal at the site map exhibits. calerdie is the wrought iron a part of the . .. .
estimate4d timelines on commercial development. applicant, it could be a couple of years
donenfeld talked about security of a gated community;
roberts, temporary street conditions, not nice empty lots and looks very bad. not a bad thing what they are proposing.
calerdine asks what the risk is to the city to add the
Discussion occurred regarding the exits, streets,
Roberts asked what is currently ; is a paved street
Chair Donenfeld said this is a
commissioner roberts suggested that all the fencing proposed be wall; the appliant agreed; especially with the wrought iron.
weremuik, said she is very uncomforatble with out the fiihsed she prefered the ocrner is most important to the city. how long the case for it to be wrought iron and masonry wall. but not uncofortble with leaving the streets unfinished.
Weremiuck prefered to have the streets finished.
calerdine very hesitant; support staff
hudson, the 6 homes will be rented not sold.
the applicant talked about the bonds are pending the street. When the city calls the bond the city becomes the developer.
it takes a minin
to approve and come with a landscaping and fencing plan, allow the temporary street to stand until the rest is developed. incorporate the clubhouse and hoa; motion dropped.
discussion entailed about the street improvements, calerdine is a temporary access road.
finish the roadway in front of the houses before they are occupied; to approve the fencing conceptually; to continue and direct the applicant to prepare a fencing and landscaping plan and direct enginering
The conceptual plans for the streets.
Motion to approve That the Planning Commission approve the proposed phasing plans and the conversion of the six model units subject to the conditions of approval. Moved by Lyn Calerdine, seconded by Kathy Weremiuk.
3. PUBLIC HEARING:
3A. Case 5.1279 CUP - A request by Fury Investments (Zelda's Nightclub) for a Conditional Use Permit to operate a nightclub use within the Sun Center located at 611 South Palm Canyon Drive, Zone PD 77, Section 22. (Project Planner: David A. Newell, Associate Planner)
munger re-entered at 2:54 p.m.
David A. Newell, Associate Planner, provided background information as outlined in the staff report dated September 12, 2012.
Commissioner Weremiuck expressed concern with a CUP's indefinite time length. with no end date; with one that serves alcohol.
Director Ewing reported that conditions can be imposed to add a review period.
Roberts, said the Commission had requested for review of cups, that service alcohol.
calerdine, asked about a shared parking, ewing, said that it is a single center.
weremiuck, asked the police to address.
-Melissa, she said only five noise complaints have been received; and no concerns with loitering the parking lot. a total of 248 calls; self initiate bar checks and property checks; 25 police reports that were recieved: 7 battery reports , 5 intoxication, 1 vandalism, 1 obstruction with police officer, 1 display of weapons, 1 theft, related to Zelda's. 5 minute break 2 3:06 p.m. meeting began again . . . 3:13 p.m.
with the revised coa's and pln 2 delete, an annual review, the pd come back if there are problems subsequent at the discretion of the planning director. removal of the speaker in the patio 6pm to 2 am 7 days a week modify. pd to produce a history of call of service; report back to the commission.
munger asked for a review of the cup; staff said that one of the problems is that it's hard to define a change in ownershp. establish a period of regular review including a security plan; can be revocation
removal of the exterior speaker. noise limits are the key here.
calerdine, hours of operation was discussed.
roberts asked what was approved for toucan's, no terms, on-going cup for location.
Chair Donenfeld opened the public hearing: -Mike McCormick, owner of Zelda's, said that he's worked with police officer to address the security issues. pd has aked to put in a complete video survillence cameras, a system to allow the noise level to go a certain level, uniformed patrol person on bicycle, increase security to 14 and they've done. # length of cup as long as he owns the business. #, only open thurs - sat., he should be allowed to be opened 7 ngihts for special events. esp. sundays. and be allowed to operate differnet hours. parking lot is kept clean, and janitorial service too. spoke about his love for the city. There being no further appearances public hearing was closed.
weremiuck asked about noise levels; dba threshold for noise leves. noise levels set for a zones in the city.
Munger, asked about the patio open area.
Motion to To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, as amended:
-Two (2) year review. Moved by Lyn Calerdine, seconded by Leslie Munger.
Vote to To approve, subject to Conditions of Approval, as amended:
-Two (2) year review. (Approved)
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS: This portion of the meeting is set aside for brief general comments and/or other issues of concern from members of the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Roberts signs
Munger asked about the possibility of a study session for the flag pole
weremiuck, the tribal commission the tribe has asked for a delay. Sitting with the City Attorney, 6 or fewer beds, study session
The parcel map will come before the Commission at your next meeting. Roberts, asked for a study session prior to a public hearing.
Craig talked about the parcel map, scale and layout design of the overall plan. He talked about the buildings,
The Commission discussed the timeframe to hold a study session.
PLANNING DIRECTOR?S REPORT: This time is set aside for the Planning Director to update the Planning Commission on important items initiated by staff or members of the City Council.
Direction Ewing referenced Ms. Thompson's comment regarding the flag pole; only allowed in front yards. he can do some research.
during the month of october you will review the cup for the food distrubtion center; the city council approved the first hearing of the zta to refer applicatios to the planning commission.
ADJOURNMENT: The Planning Commission will adjourn to 1:30 p.m., Wednesday, September 26, 2012, City Hall, Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way.
the meeting adjourned at 3:52 p.m.
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