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CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Klatchko called the meeting to order at 1:42 pm.
ROLL CALL:
Roll Call: 6 members present, 1 members absent, 0 members excused.
Staff Liaisons:
Flinn Fagg, AICP, Director of Planning Services
Michael Daudt, City Attorney
Terri Hintz, Planning Administrative Coordinator
Savat Khamphou, Assistant Director of Public Works
Ken Lyon, Associate Planner
David Newell, Associate Planner
Edward Robertson, Principal Planner
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA:
The agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Services counter by 4:00 pm on Thursday, October 8, 2015.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
Vice-Chair Robert noted his abstension on the minutes of September 9, 2015, due to his absence.
The agenda was accepted, as presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Chair Klatchko opened public comments:
FRANK TYSEN, spoke about the impactsin opposition of the Downtown project traffic and congestion. He talked about the number of half emty hotel rooms. He wants to see building A.
RON HANSON, board of directors, Tuscany Heights HOA, spoke in opposition of Item 2A; commenetd that the three adjacent homes (one being his house) will have a drastic value reduction due to the blocked views.
JUDY DEERTRACK, said she was astounded to hear the scope of changes to the Museum Market Plaza Specific Plan to be done in such a chaotic manner and late stage.
MICHAEL JOHNSON, encouraged the Commission to push for a 3D models of a third hotel in the Downtown project and take a closer look at the employee parking, circulation and improve pedestrian view.
STEVE ROSENBERG, commented that a 4th hotel could be potential in the overall plan and needs to be looked at very stringently; he has not heard anything about the residential units and questioned what will happen with the empty block in the interim.
There being no further speakers public comments was closed.
1. CONSENT CALENDAR:
1A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 9 AND 24, 2015
Motion to approve Approve, minutes of September 9 and 24, 2015, as submitted. (Noting Vice-Chair Roberts' abstention on the minutes of September 9, 2015.) Moved by Commissioner Middleton, seconded by Commissioner Calerdine.
Vote to approve Approve, minutes of September 9 and 24, 2015, as submitted. (Noting Vice-Chair Roberts' abstention on the minutes of September 9, 2015.) (Approved)
2. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
2A. DAVID ENDRES / DEBBIE REICHLING FOR A MAJOR ARCHITECTURAL APPLICATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 4,170-SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A HILLSIDE LOT AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE MINOR MODIFICATION REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN BUILDING HEIGHT LOCATED AT 2355 NORTH MILO DRIVE, ZONE R-1-C (CASE 3.2938 MAJ & 7.1456 AMM). (GM)
Assistant Planner Mlaker provided an update on the proposed project as outlined in the staff report.
JAMES CIOFFI, project architect, stated that they were able to place story poles up this morning and confirmed with the surveyor confirmed the height numbers are correct and provided further details.
Commissioner Donenfeld commented that he went four times to the site and the balloons were ineffective. The wind was blowing and he could not get a sense of the height of the building. He understands the storypoles were just put up today and were not given notice.
Vice-Chair Roberts said he saw the story poles today and were very helpful. He commented that this is a beautiful house and will add to the beauty of this neighborhood. Vice-Chair Roberts indicated that he is not against variances or height increases if they do not have significant impacts on others views. He said he was able to view the impacts from the neighbor who spoke and he went out on the building site and feels this home has a significant impact on view and loss on value; he therefore cannot support this project.
Commissioner Middleton said she went this morning and walked the site; noting that the poles are tall at first glance. She commented that she walked the imbankment and drove the street behind and found that the home that is being built is consistent with the homes with the homes adjacent homes. She noticed the tower on the northside of the proposed home is beautiful but has no advantage for the perspective homeowner and is a loss to the homeowner immediately behind this property. She is supportive of the project providing there is modification to the height of the tower.
Commissioner Calerdine said that originally this site had a great mountainview but was lost with the grading for the Tuscany Heights project. He commented that it's very tough to protect every view and angle on hillside properties. He concurred with Commissioner Middleton about restricting the tower element; although he thinks it's an attractive element. The rest of the house flows with the lay of the land unless grading of the lot.
Commissioner Weremiuk said is leaning on not supporting this because the height is high and intrusive and would prefer it to return to them with changes so that it is not intrusive.
Chair Klatchko concurred with Commissioner Middleton that the height of this building is fairly consistent with the neighbors and pointed out that the developer of the project that is under construction and would most be impacted has not expressed a concern.
Vice-Chair Roberts verified the height and questioned lowering the grade.
Mr. Cioffi pointed-out that the house behind them are 37 feet above their floor (Tuscany Heights).
Chair Klatchko questioned if the house could be slid down the slope closer to the street to reduce the overall impact to the neighbor behind.
Mr. Cioffi said it's possible they could push the house 5 feet foward.
Vice-Chair Roberts said the loss of view is not before them now and feels the primary view of the house will be affected. He would like to find a way to push down the grade down a bit but he cannot support this level of impact.
Motion to approve Continue to October 28, 2015, to allow the applicant to explore other options to lower the height of the pad. Moved by Vice-Chair Roberts, seconded by Commissioner Weremiuk.
Vote to approve Continue to October 28, 2015, to allow the applicant to explore other options to lower the height of the pad. (Approved)
3. NEW BUSINESS:
3A. FRANK M. HOMES INC, REQUESTING A MAJOR ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL FOR A 2,913-SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AT 2700 NORTH SUNRISE WAY, ZONE R-1-C (CASE 3.3849 MAJ). (GM)
Assistant Planner Mlaker presented the proposed home along a major thoroughfare, as outlined in the staff report. Mr. Mlaker provided an overview of the AAC recommendations and staff's request to modify Engineering Condition #7 to require an interim sidewalk..
The Commission commented and/or questioned:
*The revised design of the wall will match the character of the house.
*The revised landscaping meets the AAC's criteria.
-*Verification of sidewalks on adjacent constructed homes.
Commissioner Middleton said she likes this house and pool for this site; however, she would like to see a better landscape plans in the future especially if they are requesting installation of turf.
Motion to approve Approve with conditions; and modify Engineering Condition 7 to require the installation of an interin sidewalk. Moved by Commissioner Donenfeld, seconded by Commissioner Middleton.
Vote to approve Approve with conditions; and modify Engineering Condition 7 to require the installation of an interin sidewalk. (Approved)
PLANNING COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND COMMENTS:
The Commission discussed and/or commonted on the following items:
-Today's study session discussion on the amendment of the Museum Market Plaza Specific Plan and the importance of carefully studying the requirements that are making of the developer.
-The importance of going back and looking at Section K-1 (Town and Country).
-A reminder that the Downtown development is not being built out to what the Specific Plan allows.
-Massing models required for the Downtown project.
-Significant investment from the community on the Downtown project.
-Update on Section K-1.
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT:
The Planning Commission adjourned at 2:42 pm. to Wednesday, October 28, 2015, at 1:30 pm, City Hall, Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way.
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Klatchko called the meeting to order at 1:42 pm.
ROLL CALL:
Roll Call: 6 members present, 1 members absent, 0 members excused.
Staff Liaisons:
Flinn Fagg, AICP, Director of Planning Services
Michael Daudt, City Attorney
Terri Hintz, Planning Administrative Coordinator
Savat Khamphou, Assistant Director of Public Works
Ken Lyon, Associate Planner
David Newell, Associate Planner
Edward Robertson, Principal Planner
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA:
The agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Services counter by 4:00 pm on Thursday, October 8, 2015.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
Vice-Chair Robert noted his abstension on the minutes of September 9, 2015, due to his absence.
The agenda was accepted, as presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Chair Klatchko opened public comments:
FRANK TYSEN, spoke about the impactsin opposition of the Downtown project traffic and congestion. He talked about the number of half emty hotel rooms. He wants to see building A.
RON HANSON, board of directors, Tuscany Heights HOA, spoke in opposition of Item 2A; commenetd that the three adjacent homes (one being his house) will have a drastic value reduction due to the blocked views.
JUDY DEERTRACK, said she was astounded to hear the scope of changes to the Museum Market Plaza Specific Plan to be done in such a chaotic manner and late stage.
MICHAEL JOHNSON, encouraged the Commission to push for a 3D models of a third hotel in the Downtown project and take a closer look at the employee parking, circulation and improve pedestrian view.
STEVE ROSENBERG, commented that a 4th hotel could be potential in the overall plan and needs to be looked at very stringently; he has not heard anything about the residential units and questioned what will happen with the empty block in the interim.
There being no further speakers public comments was closed.
1. CONSENT CALENDAR:
1A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 9 AND 24, 2015
Motion to approve Approve, minutes of September 9 and 24, 2015, as submitted. (Noting Vice-Chair Roberts' abstention on the minutes of September 9, 2015.) Moved by Commissioner Middleton, seconded by Commissioner Calerdine.
Vote to approve Approve, minutes of September 9 and 24, 2015, as submitted. (Noting Vice-Chair Roberts' abstention on the minutes of September 9, 2015.) (Approved)
2. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
2A. DAVID ENDRES / DEBBIE REICHLING FOR A MAJOR ARCHITECTURAL APPLICATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 4,170-SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A HILLSIDE LOT AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE MINOR MODIFICATION REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN BUILDING HEIGHT LOCATED AT 2355 NORTH MILO DRIVE, ZONE R-1-C (CASE 3.2938 MAJ & 7.1456 AMM). (GM)
Assistant Planner Mlaker provided an update on the proposed project as outlined in the staff report.
JAMES CIOFFI, project architect, stated that they were able to place story poles up this morning and confirmed with the surveyor confirmed the height numbers are correct and provided further details.
Commissioner Donenfeld commented that he went four times to the site and the balloons were ineffective. The wind was blowing and he could not get a sense of the height of the building. He understands the storypoles were just put up today and were not given notice.
Vice-Chair Roberts said he saw the story poles today and were very helpful. He commented that this is a beautiful house and will add to the beauty of this neighborhood. Vice-Chair Roberts indicated that he is not against variances or height increases if they do not have significant impacts on others views. He said he was able to view the impacts from the neighbor who spoke and he went out on the building site and feels this home has a significant impact on view and loss on value; he therefore cannot support this project.
Commissioner Middleton said she went this morning and walked the site; noting that the poles are tall at first glance. She commented that she walked the imbankment and drove the street behind and found that the home that is being built is consistent with the homes with the homes adjacent homes. She noticed the tower on the northside of the proposed home is beautiful but has no advantage for the perspective homeowner and is a loss to the homeowner immediately behind this property. She is supportive of the project providing there is modification to the height of the tower.
Commissioner Calerdine said that originally this site had a great mountainview but was lost with the grading for the Tuscany Heights project. He commented that it's very tough to protect every view and angle on hillside properties. He concurred with Commissioner Middleton about restricting the tower element; although he thinks it's an attractive element. The rest of the house flows with the lay of the land unless grading of the lot.
Commissioner Weremiuk said is leaning on not supporting this because the height is high and intrusive and would prefer it to return to them with changes so that it is not intrusive.
Chair Klatchko concurred with Commissioner Middleton that the height of this building is fairly consistent with the neighbors and pointed out that the developer of the project that is under construction and would most be impacted has not expressed a concern.
Vice-Chair Roberts verified the height and questioned lowering the grade.
Mr. Cioffi pointed-out that the house behind them are 37 feet above their floor (Tuscany Heights).
Chair Klatchko questioned if the house could be slid down the slope closer to the street to reduce the overall impact to the neighbor behind.
Mr. Cioffi said it's possible they could push the house 5 feet foward.
Vice-Chair Roberts said the loss of view is not before them now and feels the primary view of the house will be affected. He would like to find a way to push down the grade down a bit but he cannot support this level of impact.
Motion to approve Continue to October 28, 2015, to allow the applicant to explore other options to lower the height of the pad. Moved by Vice-Chair Roberts, seconded by Commissioner Weremiuk.
Vote to approve Continue to October 28, 2015, to allow the applicant to explore other options to lower the height of the pad. (Approved)
3. NEW BUSINESS:
3A. FRANK M. HOMES INC, REQUESTING A MAJOR ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL FOR A 2,913-SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AT 2700 NORTH SUNRISE WAY, ZONE R-1-C (CASE 3.3849 MAJ). (GM)
Assistant Planner Mlaker presented the proposed home along a major thoroughfare, as outlined in the staff report. Mr. Mlaker provided an overview of the AAC recommendations and staff's request to modify Engineering Condition #7 to require an interim sidewalk..
The Commission commented and/or questioned:
*The revised design of the wall will match the character of the house.
*The revised landscaping meets the AAC's criteria.
-*Verification of sidewalks on adjacent constructed homes.
Commissioner Middleton said she likes this house and pool for this site; however, she would like to see a better landscape plans in the future especially if they are requesting installation of turf.
Motion to approve Approve with conditions; and modify Engineering Condition 7 to require the installation of an interin sidewalk. Moved by Commissioner Donenfeld, seconded by Commissioner Middleton.
Vote to approve Approve with conditions; and modify Engineering Condition 7 to require the installation of an interin sidewalk. (Approved)
PLANNING COMMISSION REPORTS, REQUESTS AND COMMENTS:
The Commission discussed and/or commonted on the following items:
-Today's study session discussion on the amendment of the Museum Market Plaza Specific Plan and the importance of carefully studying the requirements that are making of the developer.
-The importance of going back and looking at Section K-1 (Town and Country).
-A reminder that the Downtown development is not being built out to what the Specific Plan allows.
-Massing models required for the Downtown project.
-Significant investment from the community on the Downtown project.
-Update on Section K-1.
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT:
The Planning Commission adjourned at 2:42 pm. to Wednesday, October 28, 2015, at 1:30 pm, City Hall, Council Chamber, 3200 East Tahquitz Canyon Way.
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