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CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
The meeting was called to order at 2:04 p.m.
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA - The agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Services Department counter by 5:00 p.m. on Friday, June 1, 2007.
There being no public, Public Comments was closed.
1. PUBLIC COMMENTS: (Three minute time limit.)
2. DISCUSSION - Cellular towers/antennas and Antenna Ordinance.
Craig A. Ewing reported the antenna ordinance is being brought back. David A. Newell, spoke at the exhibits. He showed the original cell tower location by Carrier. He compared the original map with new map with revised map of T-Mobile, Sprint. He noted the changes are from Verizon. David A. Newell reported a new location Sprint will be reporting on. He indicated applications are currently still being submitted.
Chair Marantz inquired about co-locations. Craig reported it is difficult to do in practice because of negotiations. It is easier said than done. We will continue to look into that. Craig, when an if AT & T Cingular comes in we will require a map is submitted.
Commissioner Ringlein said it would be easier to identify all the couriers on one map rather than separate maps.
David noted there are 2 types of technology which requires a different type of antenna.
Hutcheson asked if anything we can do to encourage proactive in . . . .
David stated he spoke with SmokeTree and; and he indicated it is a separate type of application.
Caffery asked about putting more into the heights to encourage co-locations.
Craig you heard certain distance from each other; access and cooperative. it is easier for them to use a stand alone. Craig suggested saving money to encourage co-location. A real incentive. Caffery and more height. Chair stated the problem with Nextel, and the police coverage.
leo, are there many complaints from neighborhoods that they don't want them there.
Craig reported invisible cell site . .. you're not hearing too many. The health concerns cannot be disupted because of what the FCC regulations.
Ringlein asked about page 173, b; interpretted as cell tower. Craig said David would like to bring up several discrepancies . . . David on a profession antenna. on the ground no more than 15 feet; on the roof no more than 6 ft.
The Commission discussed the ordinance; and new vocabulary put in and old taken out. Craig said it is very complicated; take a look at other cities. the next step would be to have David do a little research; shedule toward the end of the year.
Hutcheson asked if we are planning on updating the Zoning Ordinance. Take notes. Craig said to a certain extent we see them. do not set threshold too high.
David said a lot of applicants have been encouraged; Smoketree with an antenna on the roof; another one with rooftop screening.
Hochanadel, where would the equipment go? Caffery, this should be mandated.
ringlein, asked about purpose . . . and installing underground. craig reported the City Council . .. . the current cost of undergrounding . .. can be done. Toni suggested a Study Session on undergrounding. Caffery noted the PSED Corp. has meetings on undergrounding.
The Commission discussed tackling a lot of issues to provided
3. DISCUSSION - Non-conformance and grandfathering.
Craig A. Ewing provided details on the grandfathering and non-conformance. He said through the grandfathering only because we have this section. There are many. Grandfathering means they still can abide by the old standards. He gave examples of illegal non-conforming of non permitted structure. To be claimed at legal non conforming. Craig noted that record keeping has not been very good for many years back and send an inspector to look into it.
Craig noted that the CUP is granted to the property not the individual. the whole descretion is if it fits in the neighborhood.
Craig, said we look at 2 things: 1. has the project changed 2.
hutcheson asked about the amoritizing signs and . . . are not bein enforce dbut there.
Craig said the differnce between structure and . . . non-conforming uses. parking is usually the biggest problem. a restaurant, where it has been closed for 6 months and then they want to reinitate the use. we said the structure is a dedicated restaurant . . . a restaurant structure with all the parts but grounded in the law.
The Commission discussed parking spaces for previous restaurants.
All present except Bill Scott was absent.
Craig provided details of in lieu of parking. The Commission discussed the parking situation for Las Casuels Terraza and El Mercado. Craig, they became non conforming because of a city issue.
Craig said this is normally to staff . . . he stated a few tweaks will need to be added.
4. CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS: Update.
Craig A. Ewing stated tonight's meeting will consist of the budget; Stater Bros. shopping center. the council will see it the evening of the 13th; on the 20th of the General Plan Update. they will receive a staff report and take public testimony. and the meeting in .
Toni Ringlein's re-appointment ??
does CC
Marantz said windmills were approved; windmills are not moving. Craig noted
Larry Hochanadel asked when the tarps on Ramon and ; one roof leaked craig will looke into it. 6 month lifetime.
leo, infamous villas on Palm Canyon are painted.
5. COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS AND REQUESTS -
6. ADJOURNMENT - There being no further comments, the meeting was adjourned.
Jun 06, 2007 Planning Commission
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CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
The meeting was called to order at 2:04 p.m.
REPORT OF POSTING OF AGENDA - The agenda was available for public access at the City Hall exterior bulletin board (west side of Council Chamber) and the Planning Services Department counter by 5:00 p.m. on Friday, June 1, 2007.
There being no public, Public Comments was closed.
1. PUBLIC COMMENTS: (Three minute time limit.)
2. DISCUSSION - Cellular towers/antennas and Antenna Ordinance.
Craig A. Ewing reported the antenna ordinance is being brought back. David A. Newell, spoke at the exhibits. He showed the original cell tower location by Carrier. He compared the original map with new map with revised map of T-Mobile, Sprint. He noted the changes are from Verizon. David A. Newell reported a new location Sprint will be reporting on. He indicated applications are currently still being submitted.
Chair Marantz inquired about co-locations. Craig reported it is difficult to do in practice because of negotiations. It is easier said than done. We will continue to look into that. Craig, when an if AT & T Cingular comes in we will require a map is submitted.
Commissioner Ringlein said it would be easier to identify all the couriers on one map rather than separate maps.
David noted there are 2 types of technology which requires a different type of antenna.
Hutcheson asked if anything we can do to encourage proactive in . . . .
David stated he spoke with SmokeTree and; and he indicated it is a separate type of application.
Caffery asked about putting more into the heights to encourage co-locations.
Craig you heard certain distance from each other; access and cooperative. it is easier for them to use a stand alone. Craig suggested saving money to encourage co-location. A real incentive. Caffery and more height. Chair stated the problem with Nextel, and the police coverage.
leo, are there many complaints from neighborhoods that they don't want them there.
Craig reported invisible cell site . .. you're not hearing too many. The health concerns cannot be disupted because of what the FCC regulations.
Ringlein asked about page 173, b; interpretted as cell tower. Craig said David would like to bring up several discrepancies . . . David on a profession antenna. on the ground no more than 15 feet; on the roof no more than 6 ft.
The Commission discussed the ordinance; and new vocabulary put in and old taken out. Craig said it is very complicated; take a look at other cities. the next step would be to have David do a little research; shedule toward the end of the year.
Hutcheson asked if we are planning on updating the Zoning Ordinance. Take notes. Craig said to a certain extent we see them. do not set threshold too high.
David said a lot of applicants have been encouraged; Smoketree with an antenna on the roof; another one with rooftop screening.
Hochanadel, where would the equipment go? Caffery, this should be mandated.
ringlein, asked about purpose . . . and installing underground. craig reported the City Council . .. . the current cost of undergrounding . .. can be done. Toni suggested a Study Session on undergrounding. Caffery noted the PSED Corp. has meetings on undergrounding.
The Commission discussed tackling a lot of issues to provided
3. DISCUSSION - Non-conformance and grandfathering.
Craig A. Ewing provided details on the grandfathering and non-conformance. He said through the grandfathering only because we have this section. There are many. Grandfathering means they still can abide by the old standards. He gave examples of illegal non-conforming of non permitted structure. To be claimed at legal non conforming. Craig noted that record keeping has not been very good for many years back and send an inspector to look into it.
Craig noted that the CUP is granted to the property not the individual. the whole descretion is if it fits in the neighborhood.
Craig, said we look at 2 things: 1. has the project changed 2.
hutcheson asked about the amoritizing signs and . . . are not bein enforce dbut there.
Craig said the differnce between structure and . . . non-conforming uses. parking is usually the biggest problem. a restaurant, where it has been closed for 6 months and then they want to reinitate the use. we said the structure is a dedicated restaurant . . . a restaurant structure with all the parts but grounded in the law.
The Commission discussed parking spaces for previous restaurants.
All present except Bill Scott was absent.
Craig provided details of in lieu of parking. The Commission discussed the parking situation for Las Casuels Terraza and El Mercado. Craig, they became non conforming because of a city issue.
Craig said this is normally to staff . . . he stated a few tweaks will need to be added.
4. CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS: Update.
Craig A. Ewing stated tonight's meeting will consist of the budget; Stater Bros. shopping center. the council will see it the evening of the 13th; on the 20th of the General Plan Update. they will receive a staff report and take public testimony. and the meeting in .
Toni Ringlein's re-appointment ??
does CC
Marantz said windmills were approved; windmills are not moving. Craig noted
Larry Hochanadel asked when the tarps on Ramon and ; one roof leaked craig will looke into it. 6 month lifetime.
leo, infamous villas on Palm Canyon are painted.
5. COMMISSION/STAFF REPORTS AND REQUESTS -
6. ADJOURNMENT - There being no further comments, the meeting was adjourned.
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